Northern Sold 5:39 Fri May 12
NHS Cyber Attack
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/12/nhs-hit-by-major-national-cyber-attack-across-england-6633534/
£415,000 ransom?? I bet Dr Evil is behind this caper...
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w4hammer
5:05 Tue May 16
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mashed in maryland 2:01 Sat May 13
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This idea of getting rid of paper and doing everything electronically is fucking stupid really if you think about it ain't it. I mean yeah I suppose it's protected against a fire at a warehouse but as yesterday shows all it takes is someone to get access and that's it everything is fucked.
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..anyone that has had anything to do with the NHS, forever, knows thats it only really runs on a very effective re-use of postitnotes, coloured markers and bic biro's....
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Northern Sold
1:46 Tue May 16
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39933406
Blimey... even targeting Disney now.... ol' Walter will be spinning in his grave
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claret on my shirt
11:43 Tue May 16
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criminals will be criminals, they're just a different kind of criminal these days. You don't need a gun and a mask to rob a bank anymore. The geeky kid with a laptop sat next to you on the tube can do it alot quicker, with a lot less mess and stay almost undetectable.
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Mike Oxsaw
9:01 Sun May 14
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That there's a whole industry of people making a pretty decent living out of patching fucked up (for that's all it is) software should tell you all you need to know.
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claret on my shirt
1:50 Sun May 14
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Vexed 4:17 Sun May 14
Hahahahaha , no they our one and only competitor. Don't slag DT off though they are run by ex spooks LOL
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1964
12:39 Sun May 14
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Blameing the Tories for a world wide attack, yeah OK. Why has no-one blamed Brexit as well?
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Vexed
4:17 Sun May 14
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claret on my shirt 11:29 Sat May 13
Tell me it's not fucking Dark Trace!
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normannomates
3:07 Sun May 14
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Vexed
You fat fuck
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normannomates
3:05 Sun May 14
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Like everything else these days..OTT
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claret on my shirt
2:12 Sun May 14
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Queens Fish Bar 12:41 Sun May 14
yes please, i like commission!
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Queens Fish Bar
12:41 Sun May 14
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This is the place wars are going to be fought in the future.
Our lives and technology get ever closer intertwined.
We shouldn't invest in Trident, we should invest in cyber security.
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bruuuno
11:50 Sat May 13
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charleyfarley 8:20 Fri May 12
Ag
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claret on my shirt
11:29 Sat May 13
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Vexed 8:44 Sat May 13
I know it was not targeted , but i disagree with you that patching etc will stop ransomware. I work for a security vendor that hunts for threats within large corporate networks and we've found ransomware quite a lot of times and stopped it before it spreads.
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Vexed
8:44 Sat May 13
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claret on my shirt 6:30 Sat May 13
It wasn't a targeted attack though, a decent patch regime and an OS from the last decade will repel almost all ransomware and worms including this one.
But yes if someone motivated and well funded wants to get in and your network is internet connected then there's a pretty good chance it will happen.
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Mike Oxsaw
8:41 Sat May 13
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You can trace all this malarkey back to Bill Gates stripping out networking and security from his coding in order to get DOS to run on a 2-bit 8060 chip back in the day.
That he got a working system was no surprise, but it took off so quickly it then became commercially impossible to reverse-engineer networking and security back into the code.
Windows NT was a complete re-write but backward compatibility with existing deployment requirements still meant the fuck-fest remained (to this day).
Ironically, Apple never had these issues. Not even in the early days.
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ray winstone
8:31 Sat May 13
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So where's Hunt in all this? Disappeared totally from the public eye, maybe central office want this over with quickly, it's hardly 'strong and stable' is it.......
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claret on my shirt
6:30 Sat May 13
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If the attacker had not have got in on a windows 95 expoit they'd have got in some other way, the whole IT world uses mostly old signature based prevention tools to stop cyber attacks and its old hat and the dedicated attacker who wants to get into a network will get in at some point. Most IT Security people know its not if they will get hacked it's when they will get hacked. Instead of people protcted the perimeter of their company they need to monitor internally accept at some point they will get hacked but have the visibility to stop the attacker doing the damae, stealing data or in ransomware world stop encryption of key data
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BRANDED
6:08 Sat May 13
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Retweeted Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics):
Tories cut security support for outdated NHS computers a year ago despite warnings hospitals would be open to hacks https://t.co/rBQ7vvCSxt https://t.co/uW3wZlCjlL
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Vexed
3:19 Sat May 13
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threesixty 2:42 Sat May 13
I can agree with some of that but you're off the mark again for a lot of it. For example, VMs are just as likely to be unpatched as anything else. Lack of Admin rights wouldn't have made much difference either, it's a best practice but not relevant to yesterday's events. Plenty of firms got hit in the city but haven't shouted it from the rooftops, the bigger the enterprise the harder patch management becomes, the more likely you are to get hit is the reality. Running XP all over the place and using SMB everywhere is just asking for it though, suprised it took this long.
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zebthecat
2:50 Sat May 13
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Jeremy Hunt cancelled the NHS's WIndows XP extended support contract as cost saving measure in 2015 thus leaving each individual trust to get their own.
Not that it would made any difference as MS only patched the XP vulnerability today.
MiM
The attack vector was part of an NSA hacking toolkit that was leaked online a couple of months ago. Suppose it was only a matter of time before criminals bolted their own bits on the back of it.
This is exactly why any politician who talks about having encryption back doors for government agencies to use is talking dangerous and ignorant bollocks
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Mike Oxsaw
2:32 Sat May 13
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At EVERY management level in the NHS, "managers" are far too busy to worry about the trivia of actually managing what goes on beneath them, so they delegate down - and those below them are generally only to happy to take on this "extra responsibility" as they see it as an additional brownie point when bonuses/promotions come around.
That they can't actually manage is neither here or there; THEIR manager has done his "management bit" by invoking a pair of teflon shoulders, and can prove he's "done his job (and therefore entitled to his bonus)".
Politicians are the worst for this type of thing - after all, they've got a country to run - too busy managing it, though, to actually run it.
Throw predatory consultancy firms into the mix and you're guaranteed a fucked up - so far as the customers are concerned - system.
Fine & fucking dandy for those making money out of it though.
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